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Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 09/06/2021 10:24
de funouil
Le photo shooting starboard a par exemple eu lieu aux canaries ... plus de coins tranquilles (au moins pour le slalom et freeride) et moins de paparazzis peut être ... surement le cas d'autres marques aussi , mais comme tu le dit surement de gros retards a prévoir , volontaires ou non.
Sur le matos de course en théorie vu la saison blanche qu vient de s'écouler il ne devrait pas y avoir de nouveautés puisque pas d'enseignements a en tirer .. mais il va bien y en avoir sur le plan markéting :poketoungeb:

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 09/06/2021 15:53
de _david
niveau matériel de slalom, vu et entendu Cédric Bordes qui travaille sur les modèles GA 2022.
Idem Mortefon avec des voiles blanches de Slalom Duotone en train de tester.

Pour le reste, j'ai beau éplucher les photos de Jimmy Hepp je ne trouve rien de bien alléchant :p

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 15/07/2021 21:19
de tomawak
La gamme 2022 Wave / Freestyle (et plus largement toutes les "no-cam") chez Loftsails sera inchangée par rapport à la gamme 2021 (mêmes specs, coloris..)

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 15/07/2021 21:49
de thomas
les goya ne seront pas disponible en magasin avant l'automne a priori avec les problemes de transports and co. Sans surprise on devrait retrouvé les voiles que Marcilio utilise depuis plus d'un an, apres il n'y aura que les coloris qui seront peut etre une surprise (le jaune devrait tres certainement rester)

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 16/07/2021 09:21
de nathalied

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 16/07/2021 17:37
de thomas
comme vous l'avez surement vu circuler North revient avec une interview de peter Bijl le developpeur metteur au point




voici un resumé en anglais de son interview dans motion (mag hollandais)


This week a 4 page interview with Peter was published in the Dutch windsurfmag Motion. I've picked out the most important stuff and translated it to English.

How do you know where to place the fibers?
Placement is determined using force calculations which take downhaul tension, mast stiffness and wind pressure into account. The North 3Di design program has had extra software code added to work with the forces the boom generates.

What's so good about this technology?
The biggest advantage is that the sail is truly made of one piece. Unlike any other sail the fibers run from the bottom to the top of the sail. Even integrating the batten pockets. Adding material or reinforcements in corners, along the foot of the sail or at the clew isn't needed anymore. It's all integrated in the lay-up of the sail. This means we don't have thin or thick patches but the reinforcement patches spread out. Only where needed material is added. The technology is advanced to a point that the lay-up supports the bending of the mast. This means the sail can deliver power low down while adding dynamic stability. The result is that less battens are needed and the windrange is increased.

Are there any disadvantages?
Besides some extra R&D work there are none. We have to take into account that the window isn't 3Di. We use either X-ply or monofilm. But due to the fact that the seams aren't integrated with the batten pockets it's a simple task for any sailmaker to replace the window.

All things considered a 3Di sail is lighter, stronger and holds it's shape better compared to a normal sail. Plus there is less waste during the production process. The only downside for the consumer is the price, but you get a special product in return.

Can you give a price indication?
Prices will be slightly higher than normal sails, but it will depend on production numbers. We're aiming at current membrane sail market prices.

Recently you introduced your first product the Wave. Can you give some details?
We wanted to keep it simple with the name. It's a brutal sail with sub 2 kg weight for a 4.2. You can throw the sail around without feeling any momentum. The 3Di material has a somewhat cloth feel but once it fills with wind it instantly builds tension, stability and keeps it's intended profile.

In the development stage we had a challenge with using a mold designed for 80 m2 yachtsails. So a new special windsurfmold was developed. This kicked everything into high gear.

Besides wave sails what advantages does this technology mean for other disciplines?
The advantages only get better as the sail size increases. With foiling you will have a lighter sail which is easier and will fly earlier. With slalom sails you will get faster acceleration and easier handling during the gybes as well as a better response, more stability and control. With freeride sails you can't use the excuse that you don't want to use a 8 m2 sail because it's to heavy. Our 8.2 m2 freeride is lighter compared to other brands 5.3 wave sails.

Most development is done on the race sails. How does that translate?
We found a way to incorporate the luff sleeve into the sail without using seams. The fibers we use for the sleeve flow into the fibers we use for the sail body. It's a true unibody sail with an air camber system and 100% unique battens. But that's only the tip of the iceberg.

What's more to expect?
We're starting with a complete range of sails. But since you can't build sails without masts we also developed those. The masts are a collaboration with Australian CST Composites specially designed for our 3Di designs. Besides that we're going to release 2 extensions also designed to work perfect with our sails. In the long term booms are also expected.

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 17/07/2021 01:01
de Anowan
Esperons que, comme il se doit, les mats qu’ils vont developper auront une courbure totalement differente de tout ce qui existe déjà sur le marché :poketoungeb:

Re: Bientôt dans les shops 2022

MessagePosté: 17/07/2021 21:25
de thomas
de toute facon des voiles à plus de 1000€ en vagues je ne sais pas si ils trouveront une clientele nombreuse.. sachant que ca sera en plus irréparable vu que c'est fait d'un seul tenant... duotone n'a pas fait des etincelles avec sa membrane, seul chez les GLO qui la payaient un prix raisonnable. Ca sera surement tres bien et tres leger mais autant les slalomeurs sont capables de payer une fortune leurs voiles autant je doute un peu chez les waveriders.